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		<title>By: damien_wise</title>
		<link>http://rosanne.world-changer.org/2006/02/busted/comment-page-1/#comment-5684</link>
		<dc:creator>damien_wise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the &lt;i&gt;new&lt;/i&gt; line he&#039;s justly earned for his CV is far more damaging then having a fake, old line removed. :-&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[I wonder what a karmic bitch-slapping sounds like?]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the <i>new</i> line he&#8217;s justly earned for his CV is far more damaging then having a fake, old line removed. :-><br />
[I wonder what a karmic bitch-slapping sounds like?]</p>
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		<title>By: anthonybaxter</title>
		<link>http://rosanne.world-changer.org/2006/02/busted/comment-page-1/#comment-5674</link>
		<dc:creator>anthonybaxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Course, now he&#039;s whining that he&#039;s being persecuted (of course):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
 In the interview, Mr. Deutsch said that Dr. Hansen had partisan ties &quot;all the way up to the top of the Democratic Party,&quot; and that he was &quot;using those ties and using his media connections to push an agenda, a worst-case-scenario agenda of global warming.&quot; He said that anyone who disagrees with Dr. Hansen &quot;is labeled a censor and is demonized and vilified in the media — and the media of course is a willing accomplice here.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr. Deutsch contended that although Dr. Hansen was a scientist, he wanted to talk about policy as well as science. &quot;He wants to demean the president, he wants to demean the administration and create a false perception that the administration is watering down science and lying to the public,&quot; Mr. Deutsch said. &quot;And that is patently false.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Course, now he&#8217;s whining that he&#8217;s being persecuted (of course):</p>
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 In the interview, Mr. Deutsch said that Dr. Hansen had partisan ties &#8220;all the way up to the top of the Democratic Party,&#8221; and that he was &#8220;using those ties and using his media connections to push an agenda, a worst-case-scenario agenda of global warming.&#8221; He said that anyone who disagrees with Dr. Hansen &#8220;is labeled a censor and is demonized and vilified in the media — and the media of course is a willing accomplice here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr. Deutsch contended that although Dr. Hansen was a scientist, he wanted to talk about policy as well as science. &#8220;He wants to demean the president, he wants to demean the administration and create a false perception that the administration is watering down science and lying to the public,&#8221; Mr. Deutsch said. &#8220;And that is patently false.&#8221;
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		<title>By: lederhosen</title>
		<link>http://rosanne.world-changer.org/2006/02/busted/comment-page-1/#comment-5673</link>
		<dc:creator>lederhosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 07:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;you can understand how students would get confused&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I suspect where things like dark matter is concerned, the world&#039;s split into people who are confused because they haven&#039;t looked into it, and people who are still confused because they &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; :-) (Me, I&#039;m in the former category - astrophysics looks like a fascinating field, but I ended up spending time on other things.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The thing that really changed my world-view was Godel&#039;s Theorem; I think anybody who goes into the sciences starts with a little spark of &quot;with enough logic, anything is possible&quot;, and GT shows that that&#039;s not true - that some questions can &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; be answered by logic. I think that&#039;s strangely wonderful; a friend of mine views it as a sort of personal affront.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>you can understand how students would get confused</i></p>
<p>I suspect where things like dark matter is concerned, the world&#8217;s split into people who are confused because they haven&#8217;t looked into it, and people who are still confused because they <i>have</i> <img src='http://rosanne.world-changer.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  (Me, I&#8217;m in the former category &#8211; astrophysics looks like a fascinating field, but I ended up spending time on other things.)</p>
<p>The thing that really changed my world-view was Godel&#8217;s Theorem; I think anybody who goes into the sciences starts with a little spark of &#8220;with enough logic, anything is possible&#8221;, and GT shows that that&#8217;s not true &#8211; that some questions can <i>never</i> be answered by logic. I think that&#8217;s strangely wonderful; a friend of mine views it as a sort of personal affront.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://rosanne.world-changer.org/2006/02/busted/comment-page-1/#comment-5672</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 06:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I know! I can just imagine the NASA Web guys adding &#039;theory&#039; after &#039;Big Bang&#039; and saying, in a &lt;i&gt;Princess Bride&lt;/i&gt; voice of course, because they&#039;d be über-geeks, &#039;okayyy, but I don&#039;t think this word means what you think it means!&#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At the same time, I think it *is* important to state that things are just theories sometimes. When we&#039;re now having discussions about whether dark matter really exists because one guy has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientistspace.com/article.ns?id=dn8631&amp;feedId=online-news_rss20&quot;&gt;a new theory that accounts for gravitational shift without it but can&#039;t account for the afterglow of the Big Bang&lt;/a&gt; while another guy announces he&#039;s got &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4679220.stm&quot;&gt;specific scientific measurements about its weight and temperature for the first time&lt;/a&gt;, you can understand how students would get confused.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I still remember having an intense discussion in my loungeroom when I was about 22 with my best friend at the time who was studying History and Philosophy of Science. I ended up in tears when I had to concede my nice safe world of &#039;known truths&#039; was tremulous and contingent. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know! I can just imagine the NASA Web guys adding &#8216;theory&#8217; after &#8216;Big Bang&#8217; and saying, in a <i>Princess Bride</i> voice of course, because they&#8217;d be über-geeks, &#8216;okayyy, but I don&#8217;t think this word means what you think it means!&#8217;</p>
<p>At the same time, I think it *is* important to state that things are just theories sometimes. When we&#8217;re now having discussions about whether dark matter really exists because one guy has <a href="http://www.newscientistspace.com/article.ns?id=dn8631&#038;feedId=online-news_rss20">a new theory that accounts for gravitational shift without it but can&#8217;t account for the afterglow of the Big Bang</a> while another guy announces he&#8217;s got <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4679220.stm">specific scientific measurements about its weight and temperature for the first time</a>, you can understand how students would get confused.</p>
<p>I still remember having an intense discussion in my loungeroom when I was about 22 with my best friend at the time who was studying History and Philosophy of Science. I ended up in tears when I had to concede my nice safe world of &#8216;known truths&#8217; was tremulous and contingent. </p>
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		<title>By: lederhosen</title>
		<link>http://rosanne.world-changer.org/2006/02/busted/comment-page-1/#comment-5670</link>
		<dc:creator>lederhosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 06:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One of the stupider aspects of this is that in scientific parlance, &#039;theory&#039; doesn&#039;t even mean what Deutsch thought it meant. It&#039;s a very respectable term that&#039;s often used for generally-accepted fact - gravitation and relativity are both &#039;theories&#039;, for instance, though no serious scientist doubts them. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But creationists like to muddy the waters - taking the &#039;theory&#039; in &#039;theory of evolution&#039; to imply a controversy that isn&#039;t there - and Deutsch no doubt learned his science from that quarter.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the stupider aspects of this is that in scientific parlance, &#8216;theory&#8217; doesn&#8217;t even mean what Deutsch thought it meant. It&#8217;s a very respectable term that&#8217;s often used for generally-accepted fact &#8211; gravitation and relativity are both &#8216;theories&#8217;, for instance, though no serious scientist doubts them. </p>
<p>But creationists like to muddy the waters &#8211; taking the &#8216;theory&#8217; in &#8216;theory of evolution&#8217; to imply a controversy that isn&#8217;t there &#8211; and Deutsch no doubt learned his science from that quarter.</p>
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